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Great news! Our children WILL know what snow is!

(Wednesday/Thursday blog)

Our children won’t know what snow is

Some readers might remember a rather famous (infamous?) article on 20 March 2000 in the Independent in which a certain Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, predicted that within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”.

“However, the warming is so far manifesting itself more in winters which are less cold than in much hotter summers. Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” he said. “Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past”

Here’s a link to the article in the Independent:

No point clicking on the link as, from what I can see, the article seems to have been disappeared. But you can find it here:

There are also some rather entertaining comments by readers.

In the same article, Dr Viner’s predictions were backed up by a few other supposed ‘experts’ including a certain David Parker, at the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research in (appropriately named?) Berkshire who was quoted as saying:ultimately, British children could have only virtual experience of snow. Via the internet, they might wonder at polar scenes – or eventually “feel” virtual cold”.

Here’s a bit more from the 20 March 2000 Independent article:

Record skiing seasons?

At the time, many ‘experts’ were predicting the end of skiing in the Alps as winters became ever warmer due to supposed Global Warming. It does appear that there was some warming in the Alps in the 1990s, but since then, in fact since Dr David Viner’s great prediction of warming and no snow, temperatures in the Alps seem to have fallen significantly:

And there have been some record skiing seasons in the Alps – especially 2012/3 and 2018/9.

As for not knowing what snow is – here’s this week’s weather prediction from the Daily Express:

 ‘Temperatures across the UK are set to plummet below freezing with an increased threat of snow showers from this evening. According to BBC Weather, the UK will continue to be engulfed by “cold air from Greenland” before a new weather system closes in from the Atlantic later this week. BBC Weather’s monthly weather outlook said: “December has started cold and unsettled. Some of us have already seen the first snowfall of this winter, including lowland parts of eastern England.’

Here we go again?

You’d have thought that the ‘climate experts’ would have been more than slightly chastened by their predictions of no snow being shown to be total crap. But not them. They’re back again making the same ludicrous predictions they were making 20 years ago. Here’s an article from this week’s Guardian on 7 December 2020:

If you look at the text below the headline of the 20 March 2000 Independent article and the 7 December 2020 Guardian article you might see some similarities. Both claim that activities like snowball fights and sledging could soon become impossible due to a lack of snow. In fact, the test from the 20 March 2000 article and the 7 December 2020 article is almost identical.

But there is some good news. Whereas the Independent warned us in March 2000 that within a few years snowfalls would become a thing of the past, the latest prediction from the Guardian quoting Met Office ‘experts’ now gives us until the end of his century – another 80 years – before “snowfalls become a thing of the past”.

Perhaps in 80 years’ time the Guardian and the Independent will be confidently predicting that by the end of the next century “snowfalls will become a thing of the past”?

How can anyone take these self-serving idiots and liars seriously?

8 comments to Great news! Our children WILL know what snow is!

  • Hardcastle

    Unfortunately David ,we do have to take them seriously,but not because their climate predictions have any scientific basis.These guys are totally bought by corporates and politicians who want to impose the new normal upon us to introduce a new economy upon us.It will greatly,already is,enrich them and impoverished the many.These are the guys who have trashed the worlds financial system and destroyed true capitalism,who are so arrogant that they wish us to believe their propaganda.Trouble is,they are doing pretty well so far.So many intelligent people who I know,have fallen for it and their,settled science mantra.Keep plugging away David ,in the hope that the truth will prevail.

  • Stillreading

    I doubt truth will prevail. Look what happened to David Bellamy, almost a “national treasure”, when he dared question the validity of the prevailing cult on climate change. He has disappeared from public view entirely, evidently denied television or other media exposure. “Cancelled” is, I believe, the woke term. At his age, and with a successful career behind him and presumably money in the bank, I assume he wasn’t too adversely affected. However, no scientist at the start of his or her career, needing professional validation and establishment acceptance in order to earn a living, dare take such a stance. Now the Government is telling us that when our reliable old gas domestic heating boilers break down, we shan’t be able to replace them, but shall instead have to spend many thousands of pounds, money which most of us don’t have, on ground heating installations. Already, the modern “improved”, “low emission” condenser gas boilers last only a limited time – two members of my family are already on their second boiler in 10 years – upon which a further outlay of £1K give or take is required for a replacement and the defunct item goes into landfill. My old 1970s Ideal boiler, with hot water tank and airing cupboard, is still going strong and my friendly local gas engineer advised me to let well alone. “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it,” he commented, with the wisdom of middle age! Meanwhile just this week I have consigned yet another printer to the dustbin. Given average domestic use, their life span appears to be not much more than 6 or 7 years. They are not repairable – I asked when the previous one conked out. So all that plastic, metal, plate glass from the scanner, ink in the cartridges, inaccessible screws etc. etc., consigned to landfill. Local recycling can do nothing with them because they consist of so many different, incompatible but impossible to separate, substances. We are being conned, controlled, coralled into compliance by the so-called democratic process, by these incompetents whom we, tragically, elected.

  • A Thorpe

    This idea was not created by the media, but they are promoting it without questioning and fail to investigate alternative views from other scientists. We should be able rely on the media to investigate and give us a balanced view. I was reminded of this recently when I saw a report by Peter Ridd on the barrier reef which is doing fine and always has been. Ridd worked at James Cook University and is an expert on the reef. He was sacked sometime ago because his view wasn’t politically correct. How can the truth prevail when academia is corrupt and the media is on the wrong side? Good news does not sell newspapers.

    What is driving this? It can only be that some scientists have seen an opportunity to use fake science to promote a political ideology. Eisenhower warned about scientists having a controlling influence on political decisions, and it has happened. They only get away with it because of the ignorance of the masses and that takes us back to academics. They are the real problem, as we will see in a few weeks with the Royal Institution Christmas Lecture. This year it is about Planet Earth and starts with Prof Chris Jackson brainwashing school children into believing that all the past climate changes have been driven by changes in atmospheric CO2. Jackson is based at Imperial College, now a centre for scientific fraud.

  • Stillreading

    Great words from Julia Hartley-Brewer, speaking with Peter Whittle, which explain why no scientist or anyone else who desires to advance in their profession dare speak against the woke agenda:

    Lasts almost 35 mins. but well worth the time.

  • Roy Hartwell

    I started my science career in the late ’60’s working in a government research establishment. The financing of our work then was an annual ‘financial settlement’ and a broad remit on the research to be undertaken. In reality it was whatever the main scientist thought interesting and worth pursuing. As the years went on the financing began to change and it became a case of bidding for grants to funding bodies with detailed research aims and hoped for outcomes. Might not seem too onerous but it meant, as we are finding now, that if your hoped for research project didn’t fit the criteria of the funding bodies it had no hope of success. Clearly, this led inevitably to much tighter political control of the science that was undertaken. If scientists wanted to continue a career and pay the mortgage they had to toe the line. Enough said !

  • ern


    Yes indeed, we MUST take them seriously, up to a point, because they have, for now, the means to make their dreams come true. But we don’t believe one word they say. Nothing lasts for ever
    Yes again, they may currently appear to be doing pretty well, but they (presumably) believe so fervently “now” will last for ever, they care nothing for the future of Horrible Hilary’s “deplorables”.

    Stillreading – it’s unlikely the “truth will prevail “, agreed. Can anyone remember ever hearing a politico stand up and say “I admit it, I was wrong, utterly wrong. From now on, I will do my level best to make amends and repair the damage I caused” ? If you did, they must have been drunk or drugged.

  • Stillreading

    R4 is waffling on right now about hydrogen and electric cars, the latter of which we shall all be forced to buy within 10 years if we want a new set of wheels. James May, a fairly sensible chap, who apparently owns several cars (lucky him – most of us are stretched to own, tax and maintain one!) is stating unambiguously that charging an electric car en route is a painful, protracted process (my words, not his, but in effect that was what he was saying). 45 mins. minimum at a service station to charge a discharged electric battery, and that’s if you’re lucky and not too many people are draining current at the same time. A new hydrogen car – “the future” according the greenies – costs getting on for £70,000. What world do people who think this a realistic proposition for ordinary people live in? Oh – and there are only a very few hydrogen filling stations in the entire UK. It’s time for the woke idiots amongst our Elected Representatives to get real. Discourage local car use – shops, schools etc. – by all means, but ensure at the same time that there is frequent, reliable, clean public transport, at a price comparable per mile to the reliable old Internal Combustion Engine. I regularly drive well over 100 miles to one particular destination and there is no accessible charging facility were I to be driving an electric car, so I would need to be reliably able to cover 200 miles on one battery charge. Fine chance! And those 200 miles assume that it would be a reasonably straightforward journey, with no unanticipated 10 mile diversions, no queuing for hours crawling along at 10 m.p.h. Taking away the basic petrol engine from ordinary people who already have difficulty eking out their incomes will be just one more way of controlling the movement of the masses. The rich and privileged will be able to indulge themselves with the “new technology” and they’ll have it easy with their charging points and their new type of gas-guzzler because they won’t have to encounter the rest of us on their journeys. We’ll have been priced out. They’ll have the road network all to themselves! (Not sure I’d fancy a hydrogen car myself. I suppose there are very few people now alive who remember the Hindenburg and R101 Airship disasters, but these dirigibles were hydrogen-filled and literally burned, then crashed, probably as a consequence of a stray spark or lightning igniting the gas, with appalling loss of life. I prefer to take my chances with petrol which, goodness knows, can be appalling enough when a car catches fire.)

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